Obama's Pastor

[Franklin]

There's one statement that I have for people like this;

You don't like America, than get the hell out. It's people like this wack-job that will put our country in anarchy. We are one of the best countries in the world and if you don't like having 3 meals a day, the ability to choose your religion, the right to vote in true republic elections, than leave, we don't need those kind of people.

[The Corporal]

Originally Posted by Franklin

There's one statement that I have for people like this;

You don't like America, than get the hell out. It's people like this wack-job that will put our country in anarchy. We are one of the best countries in the world and if you don't like having 3 meals a day, the ability to choose your religion, the right to vote in true republic elections, than leave, we don't need those kind of people.

Amen, brother.

[Villalba]

America is a democracy, so we believe in freedom of speech. Now of course there are limits. A white male cannot go to a crowd of African Americans, and begin to insult that certain race. Then that person will have a Peter Griffin moment, and this man, as much twisted as his words are, as long as he doesn't spring up violence, and says things like killing George Bush [thank goodness that did not happened] then there is nothing that can be done about him, except ignore him. Now i do wish that he can be taught a lesson, Maybe he should go to a third world nation, where people live in high poverty, and hopefully he will be more thankfull for that. And as for Obama, i cannot say much about him, except he is perhaps the most interesting of the three front runner candidates [Not including Clinton]

[bigdaddychacha]

Originally Posted by delgursh

I think thats being blown out of proportion by the media...especially the Obama hates America jive.

This.

America does have a prison problem, although I don't strictly believe that the government "gave" anybody drugs.

America is the country where the KKK originated and resides in the USA, comfortably. Sure, it's an inflammatory way to put it, but it's not without a hint of truth.

Hillary has never been called the N word as far as I know, but she has been called plenty of terrible things.

We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant?!

Is any of this untrue? Sure, we did a lot of national soul searching after nuking the Japanese, but we ultimately acquitted ourselves. South Africa was a horrific system, although America ultimately played some role in ending the Apartheid system, but the plight of Palestinians, particularly the Gazans, is inexcusable. Somebody attacked us, and it was terrible, but we dish out plenty, too. Our combined military and civilian losses in the past two wars and on 9/11 have been dwarfed by the civilian figures in both Afghanistan and Iraq, undebatably. Maybe it was a little crass for him to point out that it can happen to us, too right after 9/11, but Bill Maher said something similarly upsetting and lost his job at ABC...was that right?

I'm not religious and don't feel the need to defend any crazy thing that a person says when they're a religious leader; but I don't think a bunch of white pundits can hold an aging African-American pastor to have the same exact attitude towards America that they feel is politically correct.

I'm white, but I don't feel like this guy is racist towards whites; I think he is extremely upset by racism in America and he expresses it in stronger terms in front of a largely black congregation than a bunch of uptight white pundits are comfortable with. Like you've never changed your tone on a controversial topic when you noticed a person of color step into the circle..!

[Melidan]

Originally Posted by bigdaddychacha

I'm white, but I don't feel like this guy is racist towards whites

I.. Uh... I... nevermind.

[bigdaddychacha]

Originally Posted by Melidan

I.. Uh... I... nevermind.

:icon_mrgreen: Wow, I haven't rendered anyone speechless in quite some time!

also, sorry if my views are controversial...discussing politics may be as close as I get to spamming, tho..

[bigdaddychacha]

Uhh, what happened to my last post?

[The Corporal]

Originally Posted by bigdaddychacha

This.

America does have a prison problem, although I don't strictly believe that the government "gave" anybody drugs.

America is the country where the KKK originated and resides in the USA, comfortably. Sure, it's an inflammatory way to put it, but it's not without a hint of truth.

Hillary has never been called the N word as far as I know, but she has been called plenty of terrible things.



Is any of this untrue? Sure, we did a lot of national soul searching after nuking the Japanese, but we ultimately acquitted ourselves. South Africa was a horrific system, although America ultimately played some role in ending the Apartheid system, but the plight of Palestinians, particularly the Gazans, is inexcusable. Somebody attacked us, and it was terrible, but we dish out plenty, too. Our combined military and civilian losses in the past two wars and on 9/11 have been dwarfed by the civilian figures in both Afghanistan and Iraq, undebatably. Maybe it was a little crass for him to point out that it can happen to us, too right after 9/11, but Bill Maher said something similarly upsetting and lost his job at ABC...was that right?

I'm not religious and don't feel the need to defend any crazy thing that a person says when they're a religious leader; but I don't think a bunch of white pundits can hold an aging African-American pastor to have the same exact attitude towards America that they feel is politically correct.

I'm white, but I don't feel like this guy is racist towards whites; I think he is extremely upset by racism in America and he expresses it in stronger terms in front of a largely black congregation than a bunch of uptight white pundits are comfortable with. Like you've never changed your tone on a controversial topic when you noticed a person of color step into the circle..!

I have a solution for the prison problem. It's twofold: more executions for violent crimes, more labor camps (the example set in Maricopa County could be learned just about everywhere else in the nation).

I'm also for hunting down every neo-Nazi and KKK member in the country and having them publicly hanged. Problem #2 solved.

Don't know about Hillary. I'm too psyched for my response to the next bit, though.

We did bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki, resulting in the deaths of many, many more people than in the 9/11 attacks. But we were at war with Japan, war started by Japan (and finished by us). It was a preferable alternative to the bloodbath that a land invasion of Japan would have been (250k-500k casualties, or 10-20 million? your pick). However, the attacks in New York and Washington were perpetrated by religious zealots working in the shadows. They want us dead simply because we exist, not because we murdered thousands of their soldiers in a surprise attack. Furthermore, I would not call supporting a sovereign country (Israel) against the almost-daily terrorist attacks they face "supporting state-sponsored terrorism." That would be like calling Canada's support of us in Afghanistan "supporting state-sponsored terrorism" because we're fighting rebels in a far-away country. I also cannot speak for South Africa, but you didn't see us attack South Africa when Mandela was elected president, now did you?

And no matter how upset you are about racism in this country (I'm white and racism and discrimination piss me off, see my public hanging comment above), you don't have to be racist in turn. Claiming that every white person in the country is intentionally furthering race and class distinctions in America is utterly disgusting. Instead of filling your congregation with hate, inspire them to peacefully and rationally rise above any racist connotations that even the lowliest scum in this country can come up with.

[helidas]

Heck! Id rather vote for the pastor than obama. At least the pastor has a position and experiance!

[Imperial]

Mr. Wright is playing the race card in religion. Had Mr. Wright studied the roots of the religion & the man whose name in which he preaches, he would know that Jesus loved his enemies. He didn't preach violence or damning the Romans. Its sad how people can twist religion to whatever purpose they want. John McCain's spiritual adviser believes that Hurricane Katrina was a result of New Orleans planning a gay parade and that the 2nd Coming of Christ will result when we go to war with Iran. Lunatics, all of them.

Originally Posted by Karl Marx

Religion is the opiate of the people

And how true it still is.